I.T. Vibe - Firm traces BitTorrent seeders

Comment # 1 on 15 January 2005 at 22:53 by Anonymous

This is wonderful news. If true and perfected, it means enforcement actions should begin to focus on those responsible for doing the actual infringing, so taht these great new methods for making lawful reproductions can continue to develop without being sued out of existence.

Comment # 2 on 16 January 2005 at 01:54 by Anonymous

I'm not a fan of robbing material from the internet, but I have no sympathy for the MPAA and RIAA while studios continue to pay actors in excess of $20 million PER movie (and those stars can make 3 or more per year).

To add insult to injury, they claim that it's necessary to keep backing X losers to get a winner, but fail to mention that a $80 million movie can gross $180+ million for the studio. Then there's the merchandise, spinoffs, prequals etc..all nice earners, from a single idea.

As you can guess, I have little sympathy for the arguement that pirates are swindling the costume designers, key grips, etc. The money that greedy "stars" and studios make, is where the swindle lies.

Some B-Rate band - now in their sixties - were complaining recently about losing earnings on songs written in the early 1960's. I wish somebody would pay me for work I completed 40 years ago! But they don't. Those tunes have been on compilation album after compilation album... in some cases I have 5 duplicates of the same song! I've had to pay that band several times over for the same song. Who's the greedy one there?

I also refuse to pay royalties to stars who have been dead for years and years. Their descendants don't deserve to make millions from someone else's talent.

So, shut down Napster, Kazaa, Bittorrent and all that follow. With every one that falls, my attitude to whether "it's right to rip" or not, simply hardens.

Comment # 3 on 16 January 2005 at 07:21 by Anonymous

does this mean that the prices can finally go down for those of us that have actually paid to see these movies in theaters or rented them and or have seen them on satellite/cable. I doubt it. It is probably just another way for Hollywood to increase their profits. I am so sick of paying out the nose that I go to my local library and check them out now. I pay for them with my property taxes anyhow.

Comment # 4 on 16 January 2005 at 07:43 by Anonymous

Its kind of intresting that the people thataid and support huge corporate conglomerates are the only ones who can really truly afford the exorbent and outrageous prices that are attached to the media. For every one person screaming for justice, for every one person feeling that they these "Associations of America" are doing the right thing, there are dozens and dozens of others who strive to enhance the technology to spread the media faster and more securely and do so publicly and use the publicity to enhance the popularity of the scene. For every one P2P network that falls, there are dozens that lie waiting to pick up the slack. The most intresting thing is the roots of what is file sharing still lie untouched and flourishing: IRC, BBS, any University campus that allows file sharing. The war isnt really a war at all, but more of a big game of cat and mice... the lawyers being these fat, glutonous cats, while IP addresses are the mice, constantly changing and leading to dead ends with every court ruling in favor of the average man trying to listen to the new song on the radio with out all the BS in between... {aR}l0ckd0wn

Comment # 5 on 16 January 2005 at 16:31 by garydavis343

i WONDER if it's actually the first upload? Perhaps it's the first instance of a captured portion of a dowsnload. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? gary343

Comment # 6 on 16 January 2005 at 19:23 by swlbc

What a lovely world we live in ... pretty soon everyone will have to have "permission" to use their computers. With all these lazy bastards sitting in their luxury office buildings coming up with new ideas of how to line their pockets with Other peoples's money, its no wounder that we've not already hit that plateau.
Show your faces, ya bastards ~ get your heads out of your a**es and we'll knock you down a peg or two!!

Comment # 7 on 16 January 2005 at 19:49 by Anonymous

I wonder what Mark Ishikawa is being paid by RIAA and MPAA for the manhunt.

Comment # 8 on 17 January 2005 at 03:44 by Anonymous

To the guy who asked whether stopping illegal downloads will decrease the price of movies and music, it won't. Piracy is an excuse for them to jack the prices up, and they will continue to do so as they have no competition. If there is less filesharing going on, the companies will have less competition from the pirates.

Comment # 9 on 17 January 2005 at 19:36 by Anonymous

LMFAO... The fact these people think, that because they are capturing the IP of a single seeder on BitTorrent, they have caught the original releaser, shows how little they understand the technology.

Many releasers pre-seed in closed forums, meaning that by the time these files hit the MPAA/RIAA radar, the original releaser is long gone.

Under these circumstances it would be impossible to prove any one person is anything other than a link in the chain. In other words, nothing new, nothing scary.

P2P filesharers are statistically the biggest buyers of commercial CD's and DVD's. By continuing this pointless, unwinable campaign of suing filesharers, the media giants are actually suing their best customers.

For more information on the P2P support movement, visit:
http://p2punite.net/

Comment # 10 on 17 January 2005 at 19:56 by Anonymous

F*** the MPAA and RIAA long Live Bittorrent

Comment # 11 on 17 January 2005 at 22:56 by Anonymous

My ? Is There are tons of sites on the internet with download links, Bittorent is nothing different then a upgraded downloader, Now if I can download from any and all websites I find on the internet, How am I as the downloader suppose to know that the item I'm downloading is illegal? How do I know what I can download and what I can't? Its not up to me, to pay for a cable line, cd burner, dvd burnner, mp3 player, and the list just goes on and on, and then keep track of whats legal and whats not. If it's posted on the net I should have all rights to download it. And no one should have the right to monitor what I download as they upload the same file. That's just not right!!!!. They should be arrested for invasion of privacy maybe a class action law suite from all the people who have been violated. Time will tell, But if you cant download and burn files watch what every you want we surely dont need a high speed internet, or mp3 players or burners or dvd burners. Lets just all go back to dialup, and vinal recorods. Maybe then the world will be a happy place, Yea right, Cassete tapes and vhs would surely change that. lol. Oh yea it did that, just as the net is changeing now. Get with the program, make your money now, before you end up as 8 trake tapes did. Times are changeing and changeing fast. The movie and records industrys should learn to grow and change with the net. Not corrupt it and upset people. They should do it now before we all just have no use for them at all.

Comment # 12 on 18 January 2005 at 02:35 by Anonymous

They are chasing ghosts, there will always be a way to shared copyrighted material across the net. If not Kazaa then Bit torrent if not Bit Torrent then IRC if not IRC then... The truth is that they will always be one step behind. Internet access will become more and more affordable and personal WIFI networks will get larger enableing people to share information in more and more creative ways. I feel sorry for the RIAA and Hollywood. As long as they are delivering crap to our theatres and homes that isn't worth a cent then people will be seeing it for free and discarting it.

pete

Comment # 13 on 18 January 2005 at 10:45 by Anonymous

Here's food for thought, If you pay for cable and you record lets say Men In Black from your HBO Channel that you pay for onto your VCR or DVD recorder then thats ok, because you paid for the hbo and cable service. The movie industry made there money correct. Well then if you pay to go to a theater and watch a movie at the high inflated price, Who's to say you cant record it with a camera. Certinly not the movie industry they made there money from the ticket sale so they have no right to say you can't record it. Now if the theater has a policy saying you can't bring in a camera then thats their privit policy and if you enter then it would be illegal to record with a camera. So as I see it the only way a person should get fined for recording with a camera is if the theater presses charges and only if they have it posted. Of course it is not this way. But this is food for thought in this upside down bittorrent internet we live in. Downloading files thu Bittorent makes up 1/3 of the nets traffic, If the movie industry corrupts this system in any way maybe they should look at the backlash it will do when 1/3 of the people dont use the net. Also If your not being downloaded you are nobody and your movie or song is not making money, Movies that are being downloaded are making money. Movies you don't see on a Bittorent site or kazza are not. Same thingt with music. Plus all these people from the industry should check with there own kids, "THEY ARE DOWNLOADING" Don't forget if you prosacute, make sure your children go first. Just food for thought!!!!

Comment # 14 on 19 January 2005 at 07:02 by Anonymous

Only the government can look at ip adresses and they cant look at information beeing transfered without a wiretap warrent

Comment # 15 on 19 January 2005 at 11:02 by Anonymous

At #14 - If only that was true !

Comment # 16 on 19 January 2005 at 12:06 by Anonymous

I don't know.. " it downloads a sample to confirm that the file is what it appears to be."
so if its a movie they download a sample of it? how does that work
i'm sure most people use anon proxies and such?
people are too cheap, we will always find a way to share files
ftp/kazaa - bittorrent/irc

Comment # 17 on 19 January 2005 at 13:27 by dpvreony

you only need the header section of a video file to confirm it's format, quality and length.

Comment # 18 on 19 January 2005 at 15:25 by Anonymous

Does anyone have a decent copy of Sideways? ;)

Comment # 19 on 19 January 2005 at 22:07 by Anonymous

ok my thoughts are as this almost 80% of the time when ive seen friends download movies -_- and things like that and i have seen them on his computer it was no where near great quality so if anything downloading the movie to see if a person likes it or not is helping the movie industry because then since its not good quality the person is going to want to go out and buy the movie for $20 or how ever much it may be.... and if you think about it for a second movie tickets are like $4 - $7 maybe more maybe less depending on how it works where you are at the time but honestly the movie company is going to make more money from letting the people download the movie see if they like it and then they end up going out and buying the real movie because they want good quauilty for their TV because like myself i have a nice big screen plasma TV and a nice progressive scan DVD player now if i wanted to burn a movie to a DVD that my friend downloaded (because i don;t have a DVD burner) and i put it in my DVD player the quailty will only be as good as the camera took it as which more time than not isn't that great of a quality so instead of wasting like 15 - 30 mins of my life burning a crappy quality movie to a DVD sometimes multiple DVDs depending on size but instead of wasting that time i could just go to the store about 5 mins down the road grab it buy it and watch it while the movie industry is still making a nice profit from me ok i put in my 2 cents so im done

Comment # 20 on 05 February 2005 at 23:45 by Anonymous

Does anyone have a Sliver of " Star Wars, Ep III - Revenge Of the Sith " ;)

Comment # 21 on 08 February 2005 at 21:24 by kavakava

BayTsp sucks bleep in bleep (self-censored).

Comment # 22 on 08 July 2005 at 04:17 by Anonymous

i have no seeders and i dont knonw what to do i have viseted many sites and still nothing

Comment # 23 on 30 July 2005 at 17:25 by Anonymous

long live p2p! cinemas and sat tv is a bloody rip off.

Comment # 24 on 14 October 2005 at 18:36 by Anonymous

so the rich and wealthy pop/rock stars/software giants are sulking,cos Mr Average income would rather feed and clothe his kids than pay royaltys to those who dont,and wont ever need it,my f*$ing heart bleeds!.....lifes like that sometimes,get used to it!,deal with it!,go for a spin in one of your 40+ prestige sports cars.....that should make you feel better ;0)

Comment # 25 on 30 October 2005 at 23:53 by shinymusic

quote:
Originally posted by Anonymous
so the rich and wealthy pop/rock stars/software giants are sulking,cos Mr Average income would rather feed and clothe his kids than pay royaltys to those who dont,and wont ever need it,my f*$ing heart bleeds!.....lifes like that sometimes,get used to it!,deal with it!,go for a spin in one of your 40+ prestige sports cars.....that should make you feel better ;0)

Hahaha!!

Comment # 26 on 31 December 2005 at 00:10 by Anonymous

This is scaring the crap outta me!

Comment # 27 on 24 May 2006 at 23:27 by Anonymous

Remember the amounts of money they are wasting on the security protocols, tracking etc... Let the idiots keep wasting money. Eventually it will lead to prices going higher which will mean no income because no one is buying. So stop and think, quit jacking prices drop the excess costs of this little game that the cat is losing and enjoy a nice large profit margin. 5 mil a year for 100 years is worth a lot more than 10 mil this year and nothing ever again. Maybe Corporations in general need to learn this lesson.